62 – Questions about Astral Travel – First approaches to the O.B.E. (part 1)
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Angel: Welcome to this first lecture! Today I will answer all your questions about Astral Travel.
Student: Hi Angel. I read in the astral travel document that everyone in our lives has done at least one O.B.E., only we do not remember it. For what reason? Is it possible in any way to remember this experience?
Angel: Hello. People forget their spiritual experiences all the time because the Regulator makes them forget them; it happens to all of us. Low wants it that way, to keep us asleep and unable to discover our potential. If everyone remembered their experiences, no one would doubt spirituality anymore, and many more people in the world would Awaken. Of course, by meditating you can remember. It will happen for many topics that suddenly, one day, experiences will come back to you that you absolutely did not remember having, whether you had them as a child or as a girl or even a few days before, and you will realize that “something” had hidden them from you on purpose so that you would not come to an understanding. In time, however, that something will try to make you forget them again, which is why I recommend that you always write down your experiences, even the smallest ones, even the ones that seem impossible to forget, because sooner or later you will forget them.
Student: Is it possible to have taken astral travels and forget them, just as one forgets the dreams one has had? And is it possible to have had astral travel but not realize it because it was mistaken/interpreted as a dream?
Angel: Yes, absolutely. It is possible that you have had astral trips before, during your lifetime, but you do not remember them at all or you mistook them for dreams, so you ignored them thinking they were not important.
Student: Hi Angel. There was a time in the past (I did not know anything about either paralysis or O.O.B.E) when I had gotten into the habit of sleeping for half an hour after lunch (I do not do that now also because so much has changed since then). However, there were times when I had the sensation of getting out of the body by sinking back through the bed (I slept supine). I felt myself plummeting. I was trying to scream but I could not. I was afraid when I woke up and wanted to get up but the body did not respond for (very long) moments. I did not hear sounds, however, I felt vibrations especially in my arms and legs. But every time I woke up it was as if I forgot everything. In fact, I never looked up anything on the subject until reading the ACD articles (perhaps the Regulator’s fault). What do you think, was it a spontaneous astral travel beginning?
Angel: Yes exactly, it was a spontaneous beginning of astral travel. In those moments you were sensing your energy moving and getting ready to go out. In fact, you would go into paralysis whereby your body would not respond to commands as it was already deeply asleep and at the same time you would begin to feel all the sensations typical of astral travel. Because you did not know the subject, you were afraid of what might happen, so your body activated its natural defenses blocking you from the experience and not allowing you to complete the exit. It is completely normal because you were not conscious at the time and as a result your brain perceived the experience as something dangerous and activated to protect the body. Now that you know, however, that there is nothing dangerous about going on an astral journey, should such a situation happen again, try to quiet your mind by remaining aware that nothing bad can happen to you. Let go and allow the energy to flow quietly by accepting the experience as it presents itself, thus maintaining a clear state of mind. Breathe prana and do not get expectations in any way, because all it takes is a moment or a thought that immediately blocks the experience. The fact that when you woke up you forgot everything is due to the Regulator and Low tending to make you forget the experience, precisely because if it had succeeded it would have led you to reflect and open your mind, as well as evolve spiritually.
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Student: I realized through your teachings that I do astral travel while I sleep, only when I wake up, I remember little or nothing. How do I become more aware?
Angel: When you wake up from astral travel you can remember it in greater detail, but what is it that makes you forget? The fact that, having returned from astral travel, you are tired and go right back to sleep. A few hours pass from there, and by the time you wake up you will have forgotten about the O.B.E. because it happened a few hours earlier, even ending up making you believe that it was merely a dream. The trick to remembering O.B.E.s is to always keep a piece of paper and a pen next to your bed to make quick notes about what you experienced; if you were to write down the whole experience right away, you would end up spending hours on it and running out of time to sleep (your worst fear!) so jot down the quickest info with keywords, e.g.:
– went out in the astral felt the discharges, especially in the head
– before coming out loud tones in the ears almost painful
– in the re-entry I felt myself being sucked into an uncomfortable vortex
And there you have it. Then when you wake up in the morning or hours later anyway, rereading these simple notes will remind you of what happened in O.B.E., and maybe decide to rewrite it by adding all the details that come back to you. In this regard you can use your spiritual diary, in case you do not want to write it down on paper. On the other hand, if you were to just write “I went out in O.B.E. today,” you might not remember almost anything about what and how it happened, because there are no sentences that can recall the feelings, which then are what bring back the memory. Therefore, it is important to quickly mark key words that recall the memory of the O.B.E. that just happened, before you fall back asleep, even if you do not feel like it, because Low is just waiting for you to fall back asleep to make you lose your memory of what just happened; do not give it up and quickly mark what happened, so when you open your eyes again you can realize that the experience is real and that, in a strange way, something tried to erase it from your mind. I think gaining experience is critical, but then if you do not remember them, it is almost as if you have not done them. Therefore, it is important to always mark down everything that happens, even in short, quick sentences, so that you have a minimum of notes to hold on to when your memory is compromised.
Student: Hi Angel, thank you for this opportunity. I would like to know for what purpose they want to put fear into us on these trips. There is generally more negative than positive information on the web about the topic. Why do they want to block us?
Angel: The astral travel is very important, because through it you begin to understand that you are not your physical body, and you understand how much you are limiting your evolution whenever you identify with your body, with your human identity, which in the astral no longer counts for anything. You begin to reflect on the meaning of life, on the fact that if the body died you would still be alive and could enter another body by reincarnating, moving from one human machine to another. Astral travel would help you discover a lot of information that with the physical body you could not learn because it is too reductive; it would also make you realize that there is no reason to fear death, because in reality you will not be the one to die but a machine from the earthly dimension that you have been using, but which you can replace with another. Therefore, they want to block astral travel: because this would help you overcome your fears, your anxieties, your false beliefs. It is one thing to say it, it is another to really understand it. When you realize that you are not your body, that your surroundings are not real, and that you are really the Soul that can manipulate the reality of the Matrix to your liking, then you can realize that you are very close to the truth. Surely it is not enough to say it in words, you must actually become what I have just described. That is why society tries to make spirituality negative and dark in our eyes, and anything that is part of it (such as O.B.E., precisely): in this way people will turn away from evolutionary topics and never find out the truth.
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Student: Why do users on the web tell of negative and terrifying experiences and you talk about astral travel as a magnificent experience?
Angel: Because I practice and live real experiences. They, on the other hand, fall asleep, have fanciful dreams and tell them by passing them off as astral travel; or they simply make them up just to have something to say and feel like important people. The things you do to increase visits to your site!
Student: Hi Angel! Is it true that in astral you can meet historical or fictional characters? If yes, how do they behave?
Angel: Characters of fantasy? No, those are called dreams. You will not meet fictional characters during the O.B.E., not even historical characters who, of course, are not there waiting for someone to go astral; these are tales of people who have never experienced astral travel in their lives.
Student: Is there anyone who will never succeed in astral travel while trying?
Angel: I do not believe at all that there is anyone who can never achieve astral travel, since it is an experience that can happen by chance even to people who know nothing about this subject. The fact is that if you want to achieve voluntary O.B.E. you must practice it often and not give up, without excessive demands when you never practice. You could say you have been practicing for years and have never been able to do astral travel, yes, but have you practiced any valid techniques for doing astral travel? Because there is a big difference between techniques taught by people who have never done an O.B.E. in their lives, and those taught by people who do practice them very often and for real! Also, how many times have you practiced the technique for going astral over the years? Once a year? Never? If so, understand why you have not yet succeeded, because thinking and wishing you wanted to go out in the astral does not mean you have practiced succeeding. This is completely normal; it takes training and perseverance.
Student: What is the difference between an O.B.E. and a near-death experience?
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Angel: Pre-death is too often confused with astral travel because the fear of what is happening-especially if the O.B.E. happens spontaneously without your ever having heard of it-can make you think of a death experience from which you were fortunately saved by re-entering the body; but you did not actually experience any risk as it had seemed to you. During pre-death, the body stops functioning and the soul is deciding to leave, but I honestly believe that 99% of pre-deaths are just misinterpreted astral travel. Death is something that goes far beyond an exit from the body; in fact, I believe that near-death happens in the rare cases of true mortal risk, such as a serious accident that put you into a coma, or similar events. Excluding these severe cases, they will be nothing more than simple astral travel, so there is no risk of confusing a near-death with simple astral travel, except in very rare cases; so, you can accomplish O.B.E. whenever you like without risking death, contrary to what people want you to believe. It would be absurd if a person could risk death by a simple astral journey because all of us in life have accomplished or will accomplish at least one O.B.E.
If it were so dangerous, the whole population would have to die in their sleep every night, and we would probably have been extinct for millions of years already. The problem is on how the fact is told. People interpret and narrate everything that happens to them in a negative way, without giving themselves time to understand what really happened.
Student: While meditating, I felt very good and imagined myself leaving the body. I then accomplished an O.B.E.?
Angel: O.B.E. is something that actually happens, not something that is imagined. I would not want everyone reading this to be convinced that they have stepped out of the body just because during a meditation they imagined stepping out of the body or felt vibrations. First, because during meditation you do not have to think about anything; secondly, astral travel is a real experience, where the exit is physically perceived, so it is nothing imaginary. So no, you were not performing an astral travel. Until you make a real one, it will be difficult to tell the difference between an astral travel and an imagination, or a dream, however, when you actually make one you will understand that it is very different.
Student: Is it true that during an O.B.E. thinking is faster?
Angel: During the O.B.E. you must not think, because if you start thinking you ruin the experience and are almost immediately sucked into your physical body. During O.B.E. one must remain in non-thought and “think through intent,” thus without words, quite different from typical thoughts. If you start thinking too much, you risk your body dragging you into itself, causing you to wake up and thus lose the experience. Non-thinking is the key to enjoying the astral experience without having your journey interrupted on the most beautiful, or even already at the start.
Student: Hi Angel, while practicing undertaking astral travel we keep our eyes closed. Well, what is that signal that we are in the astral and we can open our eyes? Because I often find that I open them first and ruin everything.
Angel: Eyes are physical, but when you are in the astral you do not need to open your eyes. When you come out of the body you will begin to see through the sight of the Sixth Sense, because that will be all you will use. When you are coming out of the body, you cannot see anything because you are still half inside; then, when you have completely come out of the physical body, you will begin to see well without needing to open your eyes. Also, in the astral you will not have the vision problems that your physical eyes might have instead. When you come out of the body you will see everything and you will not feel the need to blink, because you will not have physical eyes, you will not need to close them and reopen them, because you will see perfectly through energy or sensory vision.
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Student: A few months ago, it happened to me that I felt a huge force wanting to pull me out of my body, and in my mind, I thought, ” It is time!” so I stood up halfway up on the bed and saw myself lying down and my room. However, I saw everything in a very confused way, I could not open my eyes, so I went back in after a few seconds.
Angel: So, you could see your body, but what was the point of trying to open your eyes? When you are in the astral you do not need to open your eyes because you already see there. That is exactly what I meant before, because when you go out in the astral you do not need to open your eyes; however, Low to fool you will make you think, “You have to open your eyes, otherwise you won’t see anything!” and if you listen to him and open them… you will ruin the experience! Just what Low wanted.
Student: Indeed! I have had others like this one of experiences, in fact it was useless because I could see without eyes, however, each time they lasted a few seconds.
Angel: Right, and this is very important. It is a doubt imposed by your Regulator so that it makes you think, “How can you see if your eyes are closed?”; and even if you see, you get the doubt, so you fall into the trap and re-enter the body because you are trying to open your physical eyes even though you really would not need them. The Low knows that if you try to open them, you will go right back into the body, it does it on purpose to put doubt in you just to block you from experiencing it and make sure you do not experience it.
Student: In fact, it is true. These days I have realized how much the Low affects us, however I am beginning to realize that the more experiences I have in the astral, even if only briefly, the more I do.
Student2: Some time ago, one night I woke up startled by a very strong vibration/shock all along my spine. Do you think they were just energy movements?
Angel: Yes, they were energy movements. Sometimes it moves very fast and can make you jump.
Student: You said that the first few times we go on an astral journey we see ourselves looking like the physical body because we believe we are the physical body, but what does the probe coming out of the body actually look like? Does it have a specific form, does it have the form we want to give it, or does it have no form?
Angel: In fact, it has no precise form: it is energy, and energy has no form or structure. It is usually interpreted as an elongated oval, or a ball, but the energy has no real shape. You might see your probe as an irregular shape, but you can choose to change shape and take a different one; this is where your skill in changing shape and showing yourself as you want to be seen plays a lot.
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Student: I also wanted to know if, since I still cannot stay in nonthought throughout the meditation and thus would be easily influenced by Low, I can still start practicing or if I should wait until I am improved.
Angel: The fact that you cannot hold a perfect non-thought during meditation in no way precludes you from already beginning to practice the astral travel technique, on the contrary; remember that each technique improves the others, so the more you practice the various techniques the more you also improve non-thinking. Do not let these doubts stop you.
Student: When I am in an advanced state of trance (fear aside, which I have overcome thanks to you, Angel), I do not understand whether I should give an impulse to get out, and if so, how should I do it? Or does the whole astral body do it? Thank you.
Angel: From the moment you lie on the bed and start practicing the technique, you already know you want to do it, so the intent is there. So, you must relax and let go, that way the energy will come out and you will accomplish the astral journey. However, if you get distracted thinking about anything else, of course the intent will vanish and you will not be able to make a good astral travel. If you push too hard, the energy will not come out because your body will misunderstand thinking it is a danger. If you want the travel to be fulfilled, you must relax and let go, be patient all the time, because the astral outing requires so much of it.
Student: It happened several times while I was in bed that I tried astral travel, imagining I was flying and touching the sky; suddenly my heart beats wildly, like a heart attack, and I could not get out, other times a little less but still the result is the same. One time, however, I had let go and felt myself coming out in the middle, my energy was moving in a circular and strong way but I didn’t come out completely. It is like fear is blocking me, since then I do not imagine flying or trying astral travel anymore because I think when I am ready I will go alone, am I right?
Angel: If you want to evolve, you should not expect spiritual experiences to happen on their own, but you are the one who must seek them out and strive for them, otherwise you would just be settling for chance. Consider that imagining too much about flying is still a thought and could block your experience. So just let go and relax, do not be afraid and do not force yourself from haste, but practice to have an astral journey otherwise you will not get great results. You will see that it will get better!
Student: Is it risky that the heart rate increases a lot when O.B.E. is attempted?
Angel: No, absolutely, it is very normal for this to happen and nothing is risked.
Student: I tried several times to do astral travel, and in all the trials I did I always got stuck when I was about to go out; in one of these attempts, as soon as I relaxed both mentally and physically I immediately felt strong vibrations all over my body, at one point I felt myself literally sinking into nothingness and my heart rate increased dramatically, of course the Low put thoughts in my head that were not very pleasant and so I got stuck. My question is: is this phase of the heartbeat speeding up also a natural defense of the body? To overcome it, all we must do is practice, practice and practice?
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Angel: Yes, it is very normal, because at that moment you are getting agitated and you have to make an effort to relax a lot and not think about what is going on. If you think “okay, I am going to get out,” the body gets agitated and blocks you. Just relax and do not think about anything, let everything happen as it should.
Student: Okay so it is just a matter of getting the body used to these movements.
Student: Is it necessary to be in sleep to take an astral travel?
Angel: Not necessarily, but it is the easiest way to accomplish this.
Student: Once I was on the verge of starting an astral travel but I just could not get up, I was lying down and consciously with my arms I was pushing out from the chest up but it was as if my legs were stuck; low energy?
Angel: Yes, you could not complete the astral travel because of the low energy preventing you from doing so, so I suggest you meditate and increase the exercise of energy movements so that it will be better.
Student: In the technique for doing an O.B.E. you say it would be best to lie on our stomach up or even down if we can do it better that way. I have never done an O.B.E., so as a first time if I get tired after a while of lying on my stomach, can I turn to one side to try to do an O.B.E., or do I compromise the technique? I feel more comfortable and maybe I can get the energy out from my back as well, is that wrong?
Angel: No, on the side it is really difficult to come out in the astral, because the body is not put in a position to ensure the movement of energy in the spine enough to accomplish the exit, so trying it when you are sleeping on the side is really difficult and I do not recommend it. If you are uncomfortable sleeping on your stomach, position yourself on your stomach, but not on the side, if you intend to practice O.B.E.
Student: Some say that in astral travel it is possible to fly to move around, others say that to go to a specific place you only need to have the intent; what is the truth in these statements?
Angel: Both are correct, because you could either transport yourself from one place to another by thinking it with strong intent, or by deciding to levitate-or, as it were, fly-until you find yourself in the desired place. On the other hand, there are those who say they walk, but in this case, it is a dream, as in the astral it is very difficult to move the feet, keep them firmly on the ground and walk one step at a time; so, if you happen to be walking, it is almost certain to be a dream.
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Student: When you are in the astral and you want to go somewhere you practically teleport there thinking about it? So, I could also travel great distances and go outside the solar system?
Angel: That is right, when you are in the astral you can focus very well on a place even very far away from where you are, and since you are in the form of energy, you can transport yourself to the other side without undue effort. Energy moves fast and is not limited by space.
Student: Once I go out into the astral, will I be able to visit the physical places or only the astral places?
Angel: Both of course, for example, your home or the cities you do not know. Actually, the physical places will be the first things you see, then as you get better at the technique you will be able to visit other dimensions that do not belong to this physical dimension.
Student: Can I use the evolutionary sound to raise the tonale and begin to “detach” from the body?
Angel: Certainly, it is in fact a technique that I teach to use, because it is very effective.
Student: Can you happen to feel vibrations (I mean cell phone vibration-like sounds) while attempting O.B.E.?
Angel: Yes, it is very normal for this to happen during astral travel.
Student: Reading the lectures on O.B.E., one of the ways to tell if you are in a dream is also to feel physical sensations. But can physical sensations be felt in dreams? Sometimes I also experienced certain feelings just of how it happens in reality.
Angel: Yes, in dreams you can feel sensations however when you wake up you realize it was a dream, instead an astral travel is much more real because it happened while awake and was not just a dream.
Student: I am a little confused and would like to understand whether physical sensations can be experienced in both dream and O.B.E. I happened to have a lucid dream in which I was trying to go through a wall and feel exactly the feeling as if immersed in concrete, and I was conscious that I was in a dream. So, in this case it takes more evidence to tell whether you are in O.B.E. or a dream; could you please clarify this point for me?
Angel: Sure. It is not just about having perceived sensations such as going through a wall, but first of all understanding the difference between dreaming and being awake. When you are in a dream you think you are awake, but when you wake up later you realize that in truth it was only a dream; that is, when you wake up from the astral you recognize that it was real because you were awake just as you are now, with the only difference that you were not using the physical body and your senses were more active, but you were awake and that should not be confused. It is quite different from the dream, from which when you wake up you realize it was only a dream. However, until you experience an O.B.E. firsthand you will not understand the differences between O.B.E. and dream, it is normal. That concludes the lecture for today, but if you have any more questions, you can write them down in the comments or send them to us. I look forward to hearing about your first attempts at O.B.E!
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